45 70 thumper how to#

If anybody knows of any other negatives with the. 458.) So, that much extra weight may be a bother. 45-70, and as much as 9.6 pounds for the. 458 Mag rifles weigh about a pound to a pound and a half more than the. 45-70 has, for good reasons, become so utterly common place, that I guess that that is why the somewhat different. 458, so it would use less of that expensive Trail Boss.īut, the. 45-70 seems like the very logical choice here, since there is so much data and so many rifles out there, and it has a case capacity which is significantly less than the. Glad to hear that you have had good experiences with Trail Boss. I am attracted to the plated 350 grain Berrys bullets because they are really cheap and they are suppose to shoot pretty clean compared to pure lead. I would not be shooting any factory loads, because the expense is just too great, and I have another rifle that I use to hunt with. You can still find H&R Handi Rifles in all these mentioned except 458WM (see the H&R Forum here). And you can beef up that 45-70 to at least low end 458WM ballistics IF your gun is suitably strong AND your shoulder can take it! Lots of potential up or down.īut truely, a 44Mag or 45Colt would suit you just as well for your stated purpose. load (mine chrono'ed at 1250fps with that 100% load). cast bullets available and the cheap Lee mould 340s these will give you your 50-100yd fun (and way more distance too) with Trail Boss (my fav) and you can safely load it to the base of the bullet and get basically a BP equiv. Ive shot 'em all and really like the 300-340 for everyday funnin'. long range bullet (quite the airship) kicks (pun intended) that up a notch. in any caliber.īe aware that the cavalry carbine load was a 405 at about 1050fps and the rifle load of a 405 1250ish was a good thumper, The 500 gr. The important thing is to use as large a dia, cast bullet as the chambered brass can take, that is often several thou' larger than the nominal jacketed bullet dia. Remember that you wont be shooting cast lead bullets at jacketed velo so the barrel twist issue is pretty moot. Yes no matter what downloaded cartridge you have the brass will last longer. 458 Win Mag? (I guess that if it is really fast, it would tear up those soft Berry's bullets.)įor your stated objective you would enjoy a soft loaded 45-70 which also has the advantage of LOTS of data, components and rifles at fair, sometimes even relatively cheap prices. 458 Win Mag were only made in the redpads only? (Most online have thick black pads, but I guess they could have originally been redpads.)ĭoes anybody know the rate of twist of the Ruger No.

45 70 thumper how to#

45-70, but if I am shooting such light loads, I would think that I would get lots and lots of reloads out of them.Īny ideas or advice as to how to go with this? Does anybody know whether the. 45-70, but it could shoot the same bullets as the. Those huge long cartridges are interesting looking and kinda calling to me. 458 Win Mag just seems 'cooler' to have than a. 458 is a defunct cartridge.īut, for some reason, too me at least, the. 458 Winchester Magnum, and most of them are somewhat cheaper than the. I noticed, though, that there are also a fair number of Ruger No. So, I started looking a these online, and found that there are lots of them, in the $1,200 area. Not my favorite rifle, but if I got a used one that is not a red-pad, I could probably live with it. (I would follow a reloading manual.) 1,400 fps or so would be fine with me.īut, guess what, no rifle meeting my description is made or available in. 45-70, with a view to using 350 grain Berry's plated lead bullets and a case filled 80% or so with Trail Boss. I guess I could buy one in a different caliber, and have a custom barrel installed, but spending $2,000 or so for such a toy is out of the question. But, I've found that nobody made or makes a falling block with pistol grip in that caliber. I am not in any cowboy shooting.įrom my research, I was convinced that what I wanted was a. My goal is to have a good single shot falling-block rifle, with a curved pistol grip stock, to shoot big bore bullets at low speeds, at 50 to 100 yards, at paper, coffee cans, and stationary clay birds. I've done so much research on this, and read so many things on line, that my brain is fried and I can't sort it out any more